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Inside Devin: The AI engineer that's set to write 50% of its company’s code this year | Scott Wu
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05/04/25
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AI is going to be the biggest technology shift of our lives, with the potential for explosive growth in the field, unlike previous tech revolutions that relied on hardware distribution.
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Devon is designed to act like a remote engineer, allowing users to interact with it through platforms like Slack and GitHub, making it a fully autonomous software engineer.
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The initial launch of Devon was met with skepticism, but over the past year, it has evolved from a high school CS student level to that of a junior engineer, showing significant progress.
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Cognition went through eight pivots before landing on the current approach with Devon, highlighting the iterative nature of developing AI tools.
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Cognition's focus on autonomous coding agents aims to enhance productivity and creativity in software development.
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The name 'Devin' was chosen early on as a universal developer persona, representing the integration of various coding agents.
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Cognition's team emphasizes the importance of building a product that not only meets current needs but also anticipates future demands in AI.
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The development of AI tools like Devin is not just about coding but also about understanding the complexities of real-world engineering.
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Cognition's approach to AI emphasizes the need for continuous learning and adaptation to keep pace with rapid technological advancements.
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The integration of AI in coding processes is expected to create a more efficient and innovative engineering landscape.
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The future of software engineering will involve a collaborative relationship between human engineers and AI tools like Devin.
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Cognition encourages feedback from users to continuously improve the Devin product and its capabilities.
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Devin has evolved from a 'high school computer science student' to a 'junior engineer' over the past year, showcasing its learning capabilities.
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The integration of AI in software engineering is expected to be the biggest technology shift of our lives, fundamentally changing how we work.
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Engineering roles will shift from 'bricklayers' to 'architects' as AI tools like Devin take on more coding tasks, allowing engineers to focus on higher-level design.
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AI tools like Devin will lead to more engineering jobs rather than fewer, as they enable engineers to tackle more complex problems.
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Devin creates its own wiki to understand and document complex codebases, improving its ability to assist engineers effectively.
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Cognition went through eight pivots before landing on their current approach with Devin, highlighting the iterative nature of product development.
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Cultural shifts are required to successfully adopt AI engineers like Devin within organizations, emphasizing the need for adaptation.
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Devin is best suited for well-defined tasks rather than ambiguous problems, allowing it to deliver more effective results.
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When working with Devin, it's important to give it clear tasks rather than vague problems to ensure optimal performance.
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Devin can log into its own session and start working on tasks, demonstrating its autonomous capabilities in real-time coding environments.
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AI will enable engineers to focus on higher-level tasks, enhancing their roles as architects rather than just coders.
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The development of autonomous coding agents like Devin is a significant step forward in the evolution of software engineering.
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The ability to use AI tools like Devin effectively requires understanding their limitations and how to best integrate them into workflows.
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To maximize the value of Devin, it's crucial to treat it like a new junior engineer, starting with simple tasks and gradually increasing complexity.
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Each engineer on Cognition's 15-person engineering team works with about five Devins each, enhancing productivity and collaboration.
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Programming is only going to become more important as AI gets more powerful, emphasizing the need for engineers to instruct computers on what to do.
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Our engineering team of 15 uses about five Devins each to help them code and move faster, with Devins merging several hundred pull requests into production every month.
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A team of 'Devins' is already producing 25% of Cognition's pull requests, and they are on track to hit 50% by the end of the year.
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Currently, about a quarter of our pull requests are committed by Devins, and we expect this to exceed 50% by the end of the year.
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The role of an engineer is shifting from being a coder to becoming an architect, focusing more on high-level design and problem-solving rather than routine implementation.
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The future of software engineering will see an increase in the number of programmers and engineers, as AI tools like Devon enable more efficient workflows and task management.
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Devon creates its own wiki to understand and document complex codebases, enhancing its ability to assist engineers effectively.
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Devon is not just a junior engineer; it embodies jagged intelligence, excelling in certain areas while still requiring human oversight for complex tasks.