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DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on How A.I. Is Reshaping Google | Interview
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05/26/25
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It's really magical when people use the new Astrotype technology in Gemini for the first time and realize AI can do much more than they thought.
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AGI is becoming more central to Google's vision, and I sometimes describe Google DeepMind as the engine room of Google.
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We're quite close to achieving human-level general intelligence, possibly closer than people thought a couple of years ago, and it's going to have a broad impact.
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The challenge in AI is that while the underlying technology is evolving rapidly, it complicates product development because you have to predict where the tech will be in a year.
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To tackle the challenge of rapidly evolving AI technology, you need deeply technical product people who can anticipate future capabilities.
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The idea behind building general intelligence is that it should be applicable to various fields, from productivity to solving major scientific problems.
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You need big models to train smaller models effectively, and while we have efficient smaller models, they often rely on insights from larger models.
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Alpha Evolve is an autonomous AI research organization where one AI generates hypotheses and another critiques them, aiming to improve over time.
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We're excited about Alpha Evolve because it represents the beginning of an automated process in AI research, although it's still relatively narrow in application. We can now generate novel ideas that advance the state-of-the-art in AI, going beyond just analyzing existing data.
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AlphaGo demonstrated creativity by developing new strategies, such as the famous move 37 in game two of the championship match, which had never been seen before in hundreds of years of Go play.
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The AlphaFold and science projects were initiated to explore evidence of creativity in AI, which is essential for advancing our understanding in various domains.
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Models like Alpha Evolve can explore new regions of problem space by using techniques such as Monte Carlo research and reinforcement learning, pushing beyond current knowledge.
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In creative contexts, allowing AI to 'hallucinate' can lead to valuable ideas, similar to lateral thinking in business, where unconventional ideas may yield significant insights.
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While hallucinations are undesirable for factual accuracy, they can be beneficial in creative scenarios, where they can lead to innovative solutions.
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Alpha Evolve is designed for self-improvement but still requires human oversight, focusing on optimizing existing tasks rather than creating radical changes.
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There is a balance between evaluating AI systems internally before public release and obtaining valuable feedback from external critiques, which is crucial for responsible development.
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AI systems must undergo rigorous internal testing while also engaging with external experts to ensure safety and reliability before public deployment.
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As AI technologies evolve, it's essential to establish international norms and benchmarks for their use, ensuring they are safe and beneficial globally.
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The development of AI is intertwined with geopolitical dynamics, and while there are risks, collaboration on a scientific level is crucial as technologies become more powerful.
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Kids today should immerse themselves in using the latest AI tools while also mastering fundamental skills, as this combination will prepare them for future challenges.
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For the next generation, foundational skills in STEM, creativity, adaptability, and resilience will be vital as they navigate a rapidly changing world influenced by AI.
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AI tools should be designed to enhance education, providing valuable resources to underserved communities and improving learning outcomes globally.
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AI companions must be developed thoughtfully to avoid negative impacts, focusing instead on enhancing productivity and enriching users' lives with meaningful interactions.
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The goal of AI systems should be to assist individuals in managing their attention and enhancing their creative flow, rather than overwhelming them with distractions. An AI assistant could filter out distractions and provide only the useful information, allowing you to maintain your mood and concentration throughout the day.
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The job market is showing signs of AI-induced job loss, particularly affecting recent college graduates who are uncertain about the future of traditional roles in tech, consulting, finance, and law.
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In the next five to ten years, while some jobs may be disrupted by AI, new and more valuable jobs are likely to be created, reflecting the typical pattern of technological shifts.
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AI tools are enabling individuals to create things more quickly, potentially leading to a rise in startups and smaller teams empowered by these technologies.
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As AI continues to evolve, the skills that will be in demand may shift towards creativity, vision, and design sensibility, rather than traditional technical skills.
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AI is not yet capable of replicating the emotional connections and nuances of human interaction, particularly in fields like therapy, which require deep human empathy.
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The potential for a religious revival or increased interest in spirituality may arise as society grapples with the implications of AGI and what gives life meaning.
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Any age where you can witness the advancements in AI and its impact on society is a good age, as we are likely to see significant improvements in areas like medicine.