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Tim Sweeney

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Humans are the most challenging aspect of computer graphics due to our evolved ability to detect patterns, faces, and emotions, which makes capturing realistic human representations difficult.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Creating realistic human faces in computer graphics requires advanced hardware and techniques, including high-resolution video capture and understanding the nuances of facial expressions and muscle movements.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Rendering hair in computer graphics is complex because accurately simulating every strand would be computationally prohibitive; instead, approximations are used to capture the overall effect of hair.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Subsurface scattering is crucial for realistic skin rendering, as human skin is not completely opaque; light penetrates and scatters, affecting our appearance significantly.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The subtlety of human expressions, such as the difference between a real smile and a fake smile, is essential to capture in computer graphics, as it conveys deep emotional nuances.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Getting human faces right in computer graphics involves the interplay of numerous systems; if any aspect is incorrect, it can lead to an uncanny valley effect, making the representation feel off.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The journey of learning programming is often marked by pain and friction, which serves as a guide to understanding programming languages and overcoming challenges.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Striving to understand what knowledge you have and what you lack, while continually experimenting and working on projects, is crucial for growth in programming.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The freedom and time available during youth are invaluable for learning and exploring various interests, which can lead to significant personal and professional development.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The early days of the internet involved connecting to bulletin boards via modems, where communities formed around shared interests, including programming and gaming.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The transition from bulletin boards to the public internet in the 1990s allowed for a much larger and more dynamic online community, fundamentally changing how people interacted and shared information.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic Games started by distributing shareware games digitally, which was innovative at the time, allowing them to reach a global audience faster than traditional retail methods.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

The transition to digital gaming initially faced challenges, with piracy dominating the early market, but platforms like Steam made digital distribution of legitimate games convenient, leading to a shift away from piracy.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Piracy often drives innovation, as seen with Spotify; people want to pay for video games if the process is easy and accessible.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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In the early days, Epic focused on creating unique games for niche audiences rather than competing with established giants like Electronic Arts and Activision.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic's unique approach was to distribute the first episode of their games for free, which helped them reach a larger audience and laid the groundwork for the free-to-play model.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Building a community around a game is crucial; minimizing the friction for players to join and enjoy the game fosters growth and engagement.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic's success came from a combination of talent and a willingness to innovate, often taking risks that larger companies would avoid.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The development of Unreal Engine involved a collaborative effort from a diverse team, where constant iteration and improvement were key to success.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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During the development of Unreal Engine, Tim Sweeney worked long hours, often programming 60 hours a week while coordinating with others and managing business aspects.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Unreal Engine was initially developed in C, later transitioning to C++ for better performance and maintainability, which was crucial for the game's success.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The introduction of GPUs changed the landscape of game development, but much of Unreal Engine's early development focused on software rendering before real GPUs became available.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The optimization of rendering in Unreal Engine was a significant challenge, focusing on reducing the cost of rendering pixels to improve performance.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Nanite, a system developed for Unreal Engine 5, represents a significant optimization effort that required a deep understanding of both high-level and low-level hardware capabilities.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The Nyquist limit states that to render a texture at a certain resolution, you never need more than twice the pixels than in the texture displayed on the screen.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Rendering objects at extreme close-up and far away distances requires generating the right amount of geometry to be indistinguishable from reality without excess.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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If you render two triangles per pixel, the image can be indistinguishable from one rendered with thousands of triangles per pixel, but rendering less than that will show visible artifacts.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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One breakthrough in graphics was designing a pipeline that avoids the triangle rasterization hardware in GPUs, allowing for better results through pixel shader calculations and ray tracing.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The human eye's focus and attention mechanism determines how much detail should be shown in a scene, requiring high resolution for areas of focus while allowing less detail elsewhere.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Rendering a perfect single frame is easier than rendering a series of frames in motion that look perfect, as earlier algorithms often resulted in visible transitions between different triangle counts.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Nanite technology in Unreal Engine minimizes visible transitions in geometry, making them statistically present but not perceptible to the viewer.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Unreal Engine transformed the gaming industry by focusing on creating a powerful game engine rather than just individual games, which was a significant bet in 1995.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

Unreal Engine is a comprehensive software package that provides all the necessary functions to build any 3D graphics application, used not only in gaming but also in film, television, and industrial design.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The philosophy behind Unreal Engine development was to build tools for game developers, catering to artists and designers from the very beginning.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Licensing the Unreal Engine to other developers became a critical revenue stream for Epic Games, allowing them to fund further development of the engine.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Dynamic lighting in Unreal Engine was achieved through approximations rather than brute force calculations, allowing for real-time effects like torch flickering and shadows.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Volumetric fog was implemented in Unreal Engine by calculating how light interacts with fog, allowing for realistic lighting effects in foggy environments.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The evolution of Unreal Engine from 1 to 5 has been marked by significant performance gains in hardware, allowing for increasingly realistic graphics and dynamic environments, but the biggest limitation remains its single-threaded nature of game simulation, complicating game logic and making multi-thread programming more challenging.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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We're working on Unreal Engine 6 to address core limitations that have persisted throughout the history of Unreal Engine, aiming to provide a better foundation for modern computing needs.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

The transition from single-threaded to multi-threaded programming in Unreal Engine is a daunting engineering challenge, requiring a complete rethink of how programming languages and systems are structured.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Creating ultra-realistic environments in Unreal Engine involves intricate details like dirt and lighting, which contribute to the immersive experience of scenes set in historical contexts, such as Nazi-occupied France in 1943.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The realism in computer graphics comes from the collaboration of artists and technical artists who build environments, utilizing multiple technical features that work together to create stunning visuals.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Lumen, the lighting system in Unreal Engine, calculates light interactions across the entire scene, allowing for realistic global illumination that mimics how light behaves in the real world.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The future of storytelling in film using Unreal Engine involves moving away from traditional green screens to LED wall panels that display real-time graphics, enhancing the quality of lighting and actor performance.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

AI will serve as a multiplying force for human creatives in the industry, enabling them to produce higher quality work more efficiently rather than replacing them, and using AI to enhance the output of Unreal Engine, such as through AI pixel shading and the creation of new objects, will significantly improve content creation.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic's Quicksole team has scanned tens of thousands of real-world objects, creating a high-quality library of assets for Unreal Engine.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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AI will not replace the need for human creativity; instead, it will enhance the role of people in content creation, providing more opportunities.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

AI can help generate dynamic objects in Unreal Engine, allowing creators to produce content faster and with more control over details like textures and shapes.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

The next decade will focus on merging traditional scene representation with AI to enhance content creation, allowing for stable scenes and higher productivity.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The fear of AI replacing jobs in creative fields is similar to past fears in other industries; ultimately, AI will be another tool that enhances human creativity.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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AI will serve as a tool for artists, enhancing their creative process rather than replacing them, similar to how digital music synthesis did not eliminate musicians.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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AI's ability to generate code will likely create a net benefit for humanity, as it will change how coding is done but not eliminate the need for human involvement.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

The metaverse is about multiplayer social gaming experiences where friends can gather in a 3D world and have fun together, exemplified by games like Fortnite.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

Fortnite's evolution from a building and survival game to a social gaming experience highlights the potential of the metaverse to create engaging multiplayer environments.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The decision to shift Fortnite's art style to a more stylized, less stressful aesthetic was aimed at making the game more mainstream and enjoyable for a wider audience.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Fortnite's Battle Royale mode was developed rapidly in response to the popularity of the genre, leveraging existing content to create a new gameplay experience.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The technical challenges of scaling Fortnite involved building a robust online backend that could handle a massive increase in concurrent users, from 40,000 to 15 million.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic Games' success with Fortnite is attributed to its ability to scale its online infrastructure to support millions of concurrent users without purchasing additional server hardware.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Fortnite generates billions of dollars in revenue annually, primarily from in-game purchases, which constitutes the majority of Epic Games' income.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic Games has invested heavily in developing the future of technology, spending more than they earn to build a robust ecosystem around Unreal Engine and Fortnite.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The current gaming landscape lacks social cohesion, with players unable to carry their identities and items across different games, leading to isolated experiences.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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To create a unified metaverse, we need to federate social systems and economies across different gaming platforms, allowing players to maintain their identities and items across games.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The creator economy in Fortnite has scaled to a $400 million ecosystem, driven by revenue sharing based on player engagement across various game modes.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The future of gaming will involve seamless experiences where players can transition between different games and environments, interacting with content created by various developers.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

The metaverse requires a powerful programming language that can handle large-scale simulations, enabling millions of creators to build and interact in a shared environment.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

Verse is a functional logic programming language designed for large-scale simulation programming, allowing for the creation of components that can be used by millions of programmers.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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In the 1950s, the first programming language designers created the standardized language ALOL, which laid the foundation for modern programming languages, including the C family.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The early programming language designers established key concepts like how functions, variables, and recursion should work, which are still relevant today.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Functional logic languages allow expressions to produce zero, one, or multiple values, addressing limitations in traditional programming languages that typically only produce a single value.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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In functional logic languages, an if statement can either succeed and produce a value or fail, allowing for more reliable conditional operations compared to traditional boolean expressions.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The concept of transactions in programming allows for safe updates to data, ensuring that operations can be performed without conflicts, which is crucial for managing concurrency in complex systems.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

Transactions enable programmers to write ordinary code without worrying about concurrency, as the system manages the execution order and ensures data consistency.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The goal of Verse is to simplify programming for the Fortnite community while ensuring that it scales effectively for large simulations, making it easier for developers to create complex gameplay, and Epic Games allows developers to create games that can be shipped as standalone titles or integrated into Fortnite, enabling interoperability with Fortnite items and cosmetics.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

The Fortnite item economy will be opened to third-party developers, allowing them to integrate their game items with Fortnite and participate in a shared metaverse economy.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

Indie developers can thrive by using Unreal Engine, as it provides tools that enable them to create games efficiently, even as solo developers.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic aims to support indie developers by providing productivity tools and a content marketplace, allowing them to focus on unique game content without building every asset from scratch.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The gaming industry has evolved from individual developers creating entire games to a specialization of roles, allowing for more complex and high-quality AAA games.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

Apple's 30% revenue cut from developers is seen as abusive, as it limits competition and raises prices for consumers, ultimately harming the gaming ecosystem.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

Apple's monopolistic practices prevent developers from directly engaging with their customers and hinder the competitive landscape of the app economy.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

The current app store model leads to a gaming environment dominated by manipulative monetization practices, making it difficult for fun-based games to succeed.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic's fight against Apple is driven by the belief that a vibrant metaverse can only exist if monopolistic gatekeeping is removed, allowing for a more open economy.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic's approach to the gaming market, including the lower revenue cut of 12% compared to Steam's 30%, aims to create a more competitive and fair environment for developers. They offer incentives to developers to choose their store, allowing them to decide how to distribute their games, rather than forcing exclusivity.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic is committed to creating cross-platform social features that allow gamers to connect with friends across different platforms, enhancing the gaming experience.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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The success of Fortnite's cross-platform play has pressured other companies, like Sony, to open up their platforms, leading to better partnerships and collaboration in the gaming industry.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

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Epic Games competes with Steam by signing exclusive deals with developers, offering them financial incentives. This strategy aims to provide a better selection of games on the Epic Games Store, even if some developers may initially struggle with exclusivity.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

The gaming industry has seen a shift towards multiplayer experiences, as players increasingly prefer games that allow them to connect and play with friends rather than solitary games. This trend is reshaping the gaming landscape, with games like Fortnite leading the way.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

The future of gaming will likely involve a divide between large multiplayer games that retain players over time and smaller single-player experiences that serve as breaks from those larger games. Efficient development of these smaller games will be crucial for success.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

Creating immersive worlds in games, like those in Grand Theft Auto, requires significant time and effort. The high quality and detail that Rockstar aims for can lead to unpredictable development timelines, but the end result is often worth the wait.

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Tim Sweeney

04/30/25

@ Lex Fridman

Despite the challenges of delivering high-quality games, the gaming industry has the potential to foster positive human connections. Engaging in multiplayer experiences can promote empathy and joy among players, contrasting with the negativity often found in social media interactions.

Tim Sweeney: Fortnite, Unreal Engine, and the Future of Gaming | Lex Fridman Podcast #467

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